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Re: kung-fu

Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:32 am

does the roll happen on the ground, preceded and followed by standing on the board?

That.
but a) the trick doesn't exist and b) i can't do it neither. Only something i thought about
(i always come up with weird ideas, everyone loves it. The reason is that i have to work with what i can do ... I also train the very-very old-school style, Jay Adams, very flat on the ground, hands touching the ground, surfy ... That style is nearly dead, though really fun, but exhausting too).

Yeah, 20-25 is nearly a kid, i meant middle-aged when it comes to skaters. Though there are quite some at my age (most go for pool skating or vert-ramps, street ist really tough for the bones). Famous ones are Caballero (of course), Lance Mountain, Tony Hawk is still rocking too, Steve Alba aka Salba -> big fan of that yoga thing, etc. ... but i meant locals.

back-flip in the air. In America that seems pretty usual, at least with one hand on the coping, then either stand or do the flip. Here you barely see it (in general you can't compare the level in both countries. Mainly cause in Europe you can't go professional and make a living, so most stop at a certain age).

Re: kung-fu

Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:38 am

minute 2.50 (he is ca 50 years old, lol):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5BH4oAEENU

Re: kung-fu

Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:39 pm

Wow! I had to back it up and watch that flip about 10 times before I finally downloaded the file and watched in slow motion, so I could see what he was doing. Amazing stuff, and different from what I expected.

I think your trick is possible. If you're going forward, up the wall, and almost come to a stop, then roll backward and land on the board, and you'd then be riding the board backward. Probably near the bottom of the pool. Might be possible to add a half twist in there, so you'd end up riding forward.

Not you. Let some kid do it first.

Re: kung-fu

Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:30 pm

Same here. Most tricks, even the very easy ones, i have to watch in slow-motion. And quite a few dozen times ...
And yes: Not me.
How can i watch films in slow motiion on the desktop, not youtube, btw ?

I tried to say it above: I see a trick. I think: Ok, i sure can't do that. Then i take the single steps of a trick and see how far i can get with them ...
And like said: usually the kids see that, try it a few times and it works (while i need weeks or months, ... They like me for coming up with new and weird ideas :-)
It doesn't bug me. I am trying to have some fun, not being the man of tricks ( an old skater, Gray, has put it in words: "skating means to roll. tricks are only on top of that"

Re: kung-fu

Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:36 pm

PS: to me ! skating is a bit similar to the spirit of kung-fu. I had to completely give up the idea of winning and losing, of competiition. Though, otoh, looking for perfection. I can't put it in words.
If a beginner does his first very easy carve in the pool, very slow, nearly at the bottom, even most experienced skaters shout and scream, cheer him up, give him high-fives, etc. They enjoy the perfection he achieves according to his level. Like that.

Re: kung-fu

Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:10 am

Bit of feedback:
1) I feel better in some ways. I will leave it at that, though a lot could be said about it.

2) After lots of videos i think what i asked for in the OP, is something called 7-Star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh_Bt0Pljn4

3) An exercise i like a lot is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VNw8tM7MYE
It works ok.
What i also do a lot is fooling around with the imaginary ball (holding it and moving it around, going to punches or blocks from it and back to rolling. As long no work of the feet is involved, it is ok ... with feet it gets pretty hard :-) .

Re: kung-fu

Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:24 pm

Yeah, it makes you feel better. Most of the martial artists I know have discovered that if they're not feeling well, an hour or so of workout helps a lot.

Check out silk-reeling exercises. The focus is on hand and body movement without stepping. It's hard enough to get all that coordinated without picking up a foot. Too bad we live so far apart - I could show you some fun stuff.

What you said in the previous post about people cheering on the beginners is the same thing I saw when I started going to a rock-climbing gym. Everyone takes joy in anyone's accomplishment, no matter how small.

Re: kung-fu

Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:14 pm

nadir . . . those guys talk too much . . .

Re: kung-fu

Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:20 pm

but it is a bit different from feeling better of simply doing sports. I can't explain it (and now and then i got really hard times, meeting the inner evils, so to speak. Things started to get fluid ... does it make sense? ). :-)

I will look for silk-reeling exercises.
....
Right now i jump back and forth a lot, doing this, then doing that, I stick to the QiGong pattern from above though (and to a few other patterns too).
Yes, would really be good if you could show me something in real life.
I am pretty sure i do some things plain wrong too. I will keep my eyes open for a partner (or even better: a trainer). No need for a hurry ...

Re: kung-fu

Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:59 pm

Well: I asked here, so i will give the feedback.
I now settled on videos created by Andrew Plitt.
As far i can tell they are pretty good (he explains well, gives several perspectives, front, back, side, etc).
Yesterday i started with repulse the monkey, repeated it today. It is still not in the muscles, but i will do crasping the sparrow's tail - looks pretty difficult - during the next week.
I also check the according parts as "applications" (i.o.w: beat someone's ***
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