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distros

Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:03 pm

I am looking at gentoo, and more close now.
Fooling with kFreeBSD too (no need to look that close, feels pretty comfortable).
Keeping BSD in mind, as the last solution.

Gotta say (regarding Gentoo):
Back to baby steps.
On the one hand it is annoying (and more than just a bit).
On the other hand it is fun (in the meaning of: fun of a child, discovering things, la-la).
Won't hurt if i get a bit more humble

Re: distros

Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:54 pm

Seems you missed this post regarding gentoo's future over at DUF.

Re: distros

Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:17 pm

I didn't miss it.
quotes without a source don't mean much to me.

And now and here there is no "solution" to be found( regarding systemd. I am looking at gentoo / going away from debian for several reasons) No one can say what the future will bring.

iow: I only do *something*, and i tried to express that gentoo is ... well: pretty different. "Back to baby steps" was the main point.

Re: distros

Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:45 pm

Reference for that quote. From Lennart himself.

And this from Phoronix.

Your other point is understood.

Re: distros

Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:00 pm

Thanks for the link of that quote.
Thanks for the other link too.

I ran into a loop of problems (while upgrading the system, and what comes with it). I deinstalled udev and inst alled eudev, once at it (both, the slot conflict and the news about udev). Not sure what will be the result of that (i got a rather serious warning ... :-).
Which points out what i said above: really just having some fun, not searching a solution (for systemd).

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Rather off-topic (as if there was one):
Today at the skatepark i talked to a dude who is physists, but works as an IT dude and Programmer. We talked about forums, then he spoke about a program he just had to write, and i proposed he might use ssh or netcat for what he wants to do. Told him that in the skatepark one might not expect the best advice and that i know ****: not about his full problem, not about the TCP/IP stack and not about netcat. He said i know more than all the people he works with. We laughed. He skated on, i hobbled on.
It is weird. I do know a bit bout computing, but really not that much. I would never consider i know enough to work in such a business. Then i hear such stories (And if you need to know that little, then i simply don't want to work in such a business ... :-) ).

Well: whatever. La-la from the other side of the ocean.

Re: distros

Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:05 pm

udev eudev
(not fyi, rather saving the link for me myself):
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-75 ... ml#7576254

Re: distros

Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:03 am

If you get ambitious enough to create a eudev.deb, I'll gladly test it. I did try to install gentoo in vbox last week, and it wouldn't boot. Spent more than a whole day doing that, and then I downloaded isos for slackware and zenwalk. I'd like to spend some time looking at the live tools they have.

Re: distros

Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:29 pm

Spent more than a whole day doing that,

I don't spend days on the PC anymore, but yeah: Like that.
Pretty much anything takes really long. For me
(pretty much anything right now mainly means the package system: portagege/emerge/ebuild)

Sabayon is based on Gentoo and always worked well for me (out of box, more or less). But i didn't look at it for really long.

Re: distros

Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:54 pm

Sabayon uses systemd as the default init system, beginning in 14.01 (stated on the sab home page.)

Edit: Saw in another post (maybe another forum) that dzz compiled eudev for sid. Not sure if he made a deb. dzz, are you reading this?

Re: distros

Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:00 pm

Oh, i didn't know.
Thanks for the info.
Like said: really long ago.
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