Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 15 Jan 98 Volume 16 : Issue 10 Today's Topics: (A) QuickTime 3.0 6116 and Word [A] Need help with Desktop DB [A] Need help with Desktop DB [A] Need help with Desktop DB [A] pre OS 8 utilities for OS 8 [A] pre OS 8 utilities for OS 8 [Q] Jaz Drive Problem [Q] Upgrade v-ram on Perf 6320 Anarchie & Fetch Anarchie & Fetch Anarchie and Fetch Applescript Composer's Mosaic 1.45 (music notation) now free Curious to know if... Disk Tools for PPC 6100/60 File Directories Free Default Folder Free Default Folder (Q) IE 4.0 and Java applications on a Mac Info-Mac Digest V16 #7 Jim Leitch info-mac mirrors ISO: QT Utility Jim Leitch Monitor Gamma Correction Need help. Norton Util "B-Tree" Errors on Mac IIci Norton Util "B-Tree" Errors on Mac IIci Norton Util "B-Tree" Errors on Mac IIci OS8 Chicago font PB3400 & netword printers? Poweruser cd drive? 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We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V16 #10" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:11:09 -0700 From: Bruce Grubb Subject: (A) QuickTime 3.0 "Chris Gervais" wrote: Mark, >>Will there be NEW types of files that are double-clickable in the Finder? >>>From what I can tell, it sounds that way. Regardless, I just want to >>make sure I don't trash out any older utilities (like JPEGView, Sparkle, and >>AVI to QT) if I'll still be needing them. Also, I could be mistaken here >>again, but it also sounds like .wavs and other sound formats will be >>ouble-clickable. >Luckily you should be able to get rid of Sparkle and AVI to QT since you >can now view MPEG movies in MoviePlayer (since QT2.5) and QuickTime 3.0 >supports the .AVI file format so you should be able to view .AVI movies >without converting them. There are two major points that should be known. 1) While QuickTime 3.0 will run on a 680x0 mac the MPEG stuff is only for the PowerMacs. So if you don't have a Powermac and want to view MPEGs you have to keep Sparkle. 2) QuickTime 3.0 according to its documentation doesn't support all AVI formats. For the one format QT 3.0 doesn't support you need to get the Windows Compressors extension that is also part of the AVI to QT package. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 07:40:56 -0800 From: "Diane M. Ross" Subject: 6116 and Word >One of my facutly has been having a problem with MSWord 5.1a and a >PowerMac 6116CD (System 7.5 vanilla as far as I know). This is at her >home so I can't go see what's what. >When typing a document, the menus will jump off the side of the screen >(the apple, File, and Edit menus disappear). Restarting fixes the problem. >She, of course, can't tell me what she did to make this happen. >Word is all she uses so I can't find out if this is limited to Word or >not. Saw this on MacFixIt: Menu text vanishes in Mac OS 8; the cause and solution. It happens if anapplication somehow corrupts the Charcoal font used by the menus. A work-around is to to go the Appearance control panel and set the System font to Chicago. Then restart the Mac. Reinstalling a fresh copy of the Charcoal font should also HTH Diane Ross work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:29:25 -0800 From: esther.r.michaels@usa.net (Esther Michaels) Subject: [A] Need help with Desktop DB Thanks to all who responded privately regarding my father and his Desktop DB file. I've sent him the instructions as I proposed to the group, and from his account all seems to have gone well. If anyone is interested in a summary of the responses, email me privately and I'll be glad to send. Thanks once again everyone! Esther Michaels esther.r.michaels@usa.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:13:04 -0500 (EST) From: Lindsey Subject: [A] Need help with Desktop DB : My father, a rank beginner, is using my Mac (an LCxxx -- can't remember : the xxx) for email while I live overseas. It seems that recently he felt : adventurous and decided to explore a file he'd just noticed in a dialog : box. That file was called Desktop DB. Sigh. This is of course a desktop file that is usually invisible and should be left alone most of the time. You foater needs to fix the problem by restarting the mac with the [option]+[command] keys both held down. This will erase and rebuild the desktop files. If the Desktop DB file is still on your hard drive after he has finished... throw it in the trash and restart again. Regards! Scott Lindsey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:50:32 -0500 From: Rick VanDerveer Subject: [A] Need help with Desktop DB At 3:36 PM -0500 1/10/98, Esther Michaels wrote: >My father, a rank beginner, is using my Mac (an LCxxx -- can't remember >the xxx) for email while I live overseas. It seems that recently he felt >adventurous and decided to explore a file he'd just noticed in a dialog >box. That file was called Desktop DB. Sigh. > >Unfortunately he can't remember exactly what he did, but it seems that he >now has a file sitting on his desktop, called Desktop DB. HOW he got it >there is anybody's guess! He can't remember. > >My question is this: isn't this just the file that the Finder maintains, >and writes a new one each time we do a desktop rebuild? Would it be safe >to simply trash it (the one on the desktop), then restart and rebuild the >desktop, then restart again and try to empty the trash? Since he's used >the computer several times since he did whatever-it-is-he-did, I'm >assuming that the Mac has made a new file by now anyway. > >In case it makes a difference, he's on sys 7.5.3. > >Any input/advice gratefully received. > >Esther Michaels >esther.r.michaels@usa.net Not sure how he would've gotten it to show up on the desktop like that, must've been a neat trick (without knowledge of such things, that is). Anyway, he should probably delete the file. The MacOS will happily rebuild a new if it need to. Finally, there is a way to force it to build it cleanly, which I outline on my 'Accelerate MacOS 8' web page. Go to: http://cafe.ambrosiasw.com/netgames/performance_Sys8.html Hope this helps... -Rick --- 'Networkable Mac Games' -- Your source for multiplayer gaming on the Mac. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:59:17 -0800 From: Matt Neuburg Subject: [A] pre OS 8 utilities for OS 8 >From: Ken Laskey >Recent discussion indicates Now Utilities >do not (I've heard rumors that someone is taking over Now Utilities and >plans an update -- any truth to this?). Anyone who pretends to predict the future of Now Utilities (or anything else) is a liar, but for hopeful noises, see: http://www.qualcomm.com/news/pr980106c.html m. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 14:58:08 +0100 From: Patrik Montgomery Subject: [A] pre OS 8 utilities for OS 8 On 98-01-12 10:36, Ken Laskey used quantum mechanics and the General Theory of Relativity to draw the conclusion that: >Is there a list of which utilities commonly used under System 7.x still >work or do not work under OS 8? Recent discussion indicates Now Utilities >do not (I've heard rumors that someone is taking over Now Utilities and >plans an update -- any truth to this?). Does SCSI Probe 4.3? > Most utilities either work or have been updated by now. Qualcomm, maker of Eudora, has bought Now Software and will eventually release Now Utilities 8, but it will be a while. Other Extensions that don't work includes PopuFolder (as noted before on this list) but IMHO it is no longer as useful as it once was. If there is a list of Utilities that don't work, I haven't seen it. About SCSIProbe, I don't know. According to some people it works flawlessly. It hangs my machine whenever I try to use it. Depends on what driver you're using for your HD, I guess. Patrik Montgomery http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-18713/ multitasking, n - the computer equivalent of schizophrenia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 12:09:25 CST From: Mike Sisson Subject: [Q] Jaz Drive Problem I recently purchased a Jaz drive along with a Jaz Jet PCI SCSI-2 card and I'm having some problems getting it to work. The system is: Motorola StarMax 4000/200 System 7.6 Jaz Tools 5.0.3 I have the Jaz drive hooked up to the Jaz Jet PCI with nothing else on that bus. I have a Syquest hooked to the "stock" SCSI bus. Everything installed fine and the Jaz disk icon appears on the desktop. However, when I try to do a backup to the Jaz from my hard drive using DiskFit, it freezes the machine (with both the orange and green lights on the Jaz drive illuminated) partway into the backup. I have tried it with the termination switch on the Jaz drive in all three positions (off,auto and on) and even got an external terminator and hooked it to the Jaz since I'd read that in some Zip drives the auto termination of the drive wasn't enough. Same results. It freezes in different spots during the backup but it freezes nonetheless. I have also tried this with all extensions and control panels off (except for the Jaz Driver extension) and it still freezes. Copying from the finder also produces random freezes. My next step is to try connecting the Jaz to the "stock" SCSI bus and see if that works. However, I'd rather get it to work on Jaz Jet PCI SCSI bus since that is a SCSI-2 bus and will move the bits faster (if I can get them to move at all. Any suggestions as to what might be wrong/what I can try will be appreciated. Mike Sisson sisson_md@vought.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:40:23 +0000 From: Quentin North Subject: [Q] Upgrade v-ram on Perf 6320 Does anyone know if it is possible to increase the vram on a Performa 6320. At 832x624 it only gives me 256 colours and I want more, but MacWarehouse says they dont do vram upgrades for this model. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 08:46:38 +0000 From: "Rev. Nigel Coke-Woods" Subject: Anarchie & Fetch > Have recently upgraded my Mac I am using OS8 but have encountered MAJOR > problems with Anarchie 2.0.1 freezing and also crashing when trying to > upload files. > > Here is the text from the Anarchie fault screen message... > > "Anarchie: Failed to startup (-23009 (insufficient resources to perform > request))" > > Question: is Anarchie compatible with OS8 and if not, any ideas when a new > version will be available. > > I'm having a similar problem with Fetch 3.0.3. which gives a system bomb! > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Lobo. Anarchie 2.0.1 works fine under OS8. Make sure PPP is connected before you launch Anarchie. Nigel. Nigel Coke-Woods Methodist Minister S.W. Cumbria Methodist Circuit, Millom, Cumbria UK. Nigel@cokery.demon.co.uk http://www.Cokery.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:00:38 -0500 From: "Peter J. Paul" Subject: Anarchie & Fetch > Have recently upgraded my Mac I am using OS8 but have encountered MAJOR > problems with Anarchie 2.0.1 freezing and also crashing when trying to > upload files. > > Here is the text from the Anarchie fault screen message... > > "Anarchie: Failed to startup (-23009 (insufficient resources to perform > request))" > > Question: is Anarchie compatible with OS8 and if not, any ideas when a new > version will be available. > > I'm having a similar problem with Fetch 3.0.3. which gives a system bomb! Try using Anarchie and/or Fetch when connected. They won't operate correctly while off line. Peter J. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 14:58:11 +0100 From: Patrik Montgomery Subject: Anarchie and Fetch On 98-01-12 10:36, Info-Mac used quantum mechanics and the General Theory of Relativity to draw the conclusion that: >Have recently upgraded my Mac I am using OS8 but have encountered MAJOR >problems with Anarchie 2.0.1 freezing and also crashing when trying to >upload files. > >Here is the text from the Anarchie fault screen message... > >"Anarchie: Failed to startup (-23009 (insufficient resources to perform >request))" > >Question: is Anarchie compatible with OS8 and if not, any ideas when a new >version will be available. I haven't experienced any problems. Try increasing your memory partition. I understand that Anarchie 3 is in betatesting and that it is going to have a number of new features, including downloading via http as well as ftp and the "most wanted" feature: Resumable downloads. Note that this is only rumors: Don't complain to me if they're wrong. > >I'm having a similar problem with Fetch 3.0.3. which gives a system bomb! Once again, try increasing your memory. Check for strange Extensions as well - a number of them are incompatyible with OS 8. Patrik Montgomery http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-18713/ multitasking, n - the computer equivalent of schizophrenia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:05:14 -0100 From: harrist@lamp.ac.uk Subject: Applescript Can someone advise me on Applescript please. I need to be able to write somes scripts for our student lab. What I need to know - 1. A good system 8 compatible book on Applescript. 2. Can I set the desktop printer default at startup using a script. I want to reset the defualt from a colour to a black and white printer. 3. Can I set caps lock to off at startup using a script or other means. Caps lock intereferes with passwords and catches students out. Thanks for any help forthcoming. Trevor Harris, Lampeter, UK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:13:47 -0500 From: John Rethorst Subject: Composer's Mosaic 1.45 (music notation) now free Composer's Mosaic 1.45 for the Macintosh is now free on the web. While the arguments pro and con between this, Finale, Overture, Encore and Nightingale (and others) will continue, this is one amazing opportunity - a major full featured, non-copy-protected, non-expiring commercial notation program free. The publisher, Mark of the Unicorn, is apparently hoping that people will like it and upgrade to the later version. I don't work for them; just wanted to pass the news along. See: http://www.motu.com/pages/DownloadMosaic.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 01:18:47 -0400 From: sjwright@tiac.net (HazelNut (frmrly the Taoiseach)) Subject: Curious to know if... (A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc) ... there was ever a piece(s) of software or h/w that, like the PowerPC Monitors Extension, enlarged and/or reduced onscreen elements (menubar, windows, desktop icons, etc) for 68K Macs, specifically the II series. If there was, is it/are they still available? I have a 17" Sony monitor, and friends and relatives are forever commenting on how small everything looks in relation to the size of the screen. I know on the Wintel side of GUI Gulch, there are divers enablers and OEMs that do this very thing, even for Win3.1. Steve Wright. -- sender is male. hazelnut is coffee. sjw. Forwards and replies welcome. No Spam. (on devrait tomber les lettres extras pour répliquer) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:19:55 -0500 From: Leo <687372@ican.net> Subject: Disk Tools for PPC 6100/60 I have a PPC 6100/60 running system 7.5.5 and I'm wondering why a diskette called Disk Tools for system 7.5 will not work as a startup disk on my computer. It tells me to use a recent installer to update the disk. I've looked at my system 7.5.3 and 7.5.5 disks and I can't find anything that will update this diskette. Am I missing something? Would someone please tell me how I can update this Disk Tools diskette. Please reply directly to me. Thanks in advance. Leo G. Leduc 687372@ican.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:19:41 -0600 From: tedlogan@busprod.com (Ted Logan) Subject: File Directories Thank you very much to everyone on Info-Mac who responded to my request for help on how to produce a text file that listed the files in a folder. The simple answer is select all the files with cmd-A and copy/paste them to a text file. I've only been using my Mac for nearly three years now and in this way have discovered that my understanding of the Macintosh operating system is still at the well...duh stage. Others came through with Apple scripts and such, which are also appreciated if only because they don't make me feel so dumb. But the truly elegant answer is Alessandro Levi Montalcini's List Files (currently 2.6), readily downloadable from Info-Mac's Hyperachives. Works like a charm and is only $10 shareware cost. You programmers in this life have been amazing me since my CP/M days going back to 1980 and with neat little gadgets like List Files and you continue doing so virtually every day. Does anyone remember SWP, then NSWP (pronounced "sweep" and "newsweep") from years and years ago by a CP/M programmer named Rand (?) in Canada? No sysop could operate a R[emote]CP/M or shell-type DOS BBS without NSWP, which manipulated files with wonderful efficiency. I wonder if he or any of his team ever ported NSWP into the Macintosh world? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:34:16 +0100 From: Hartmut Buhrmester Subject: Free Default Folder > I need to set the default save folder for all applications on the Macs in a > lab here. I've used Default Folder and it does the job, but I was hoping > that I could find a free alternative to do just this one task (DF does this > part and more). > > Anyone have a suggestion? Apple's control panel General Options will just do that: Set a "Documents" folder as the default folder for all applications. You may also try Back2TheFolder II, a free MacUser exclusive utility. It is available at in the exclusives area. It does almost everything that similar commercial utilities offer: - a list of recently opened documents (application specific) - a list of recent folders (application specific) - a rebound feature to go back to the last folder - a default folder for each application - a list of remembered folders (application specific) - a general list of remembered folders for all applications Hope it helps, Hartmut -- Hartmut Buhrmester ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:20:06 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: Free Default Folder (Q) At 10:23 AM -0600 1/9/98, Ernie Soffronoff wrote: >I need to set the default save folder for all applications on the Macs in a >lab here. >Anyone have a suggestion? Sure; open the General Controls Control Panel and look in the lower right-hand corner. "When opening and saving a document, take me to: () Folder that is set by the application. () Last folder used in the application. () Documents folder." This preference has been present since 7.1.1 or so. The "Documents" folder referred to is a folder on the Desktop called "Documents". If it doesn't already exist, then the first attempt to save or open a file will create it. chazl - 1.12.1998 - chaz@visi.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:14:21 -0800 From: Lee Elson Subject: IE 4.0 and Java applications on a Mac Can anyone tell me how to launch a Java application on a Mac. I have Internet Explorer 4.0 (with the JDK 1.1.4 compliant VM). I've used a Mac for a total of about 1 hour so keep it simple. FYI, MRJ 2.0 fails miserably with text fields in Java applications hence the (desperate) move to IE. Please e-mail if you post. TIA Lee Elson elson@magus.jpl.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:30:39 -0800 From: Max Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #7 Jim Leitch I am not only terribly saddened by Jim's passing. I wonder what I will ever do without new upgrades to my Address Book. Nothing else even comes close to matching it. Does anybody know of anything comparable? Max ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:30:52 -0500 From: "Norman R. Friedman" Subject: info-mac mirrors I think that people who submit downloads to info-mac should wait until the items appear in a mirror for downloading before announcing the item to the info-mac list. That way we do not have to search for it and NOT find it available, sometimes for days after reading it in info-mac. Not a flame, just a suggestion, please. IF I FORGET THEE OH JERUSALEM... NISAN B'REB SHAMAI (NORMAN R. FRIEDMAN) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:29:29 -0500 From: Doug Hancock Subject: ISO: QT Utility Greetings Fellow Macophiles: I am in search of a QuickTime utility that can disassemble the movie into individual frames. This app does not need to be studio quality or have a lot of bells and whistles - we just need something to allow access to each individual frame in the movie. A freeware or shareware application would be preferable, but all leads would be greatly appreciated. TIA Doug Hancock --->Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.<--- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:40:16 +0000 From: i.burt@netmatters.co.uk (Ian Burt) Subject: Jim Leitch Hello all Re: >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:03:03 -0600 >From: tedlogan@busprod.com (Ted Logan) >Subject: Jim Leitch > >>I did one of my periodic sweeps of the net the other day checking for >>upgrades to my various programs. I was disturbed to see that Address >>Book is no longer available. I dropped a note to the "more info" e-mail >>address, and the response got me even more disturbed. Jim Leitch, Address >>Book's author, has died. >> >>Jim was among my favorite shareware authors. He listened to my patented >>rants and raves, and he most often responded to them with ADBK upgrades >>that shut me up. At no extra cost to anyone. I considered him one of many >>friends-I've-never-met on the internet. He was one of the good guys. >> >>I suspect I'm far from alone in missing him. >> >>Al Bloom > >Like many others, I, too, am a devotee of Address Book. I did not know Jim >Leitch had written other software. May he rest in peace. Yes I still use Address Book too in defiance of bulky BloatWare. Does the job great. Maybe somebody can tell me if Address Book got any further than Address Book 3.7.0p11 which I use? I cannot add anything to the above except RIP Jim, may the bandwidth be as big as your generosity wherever you are now. Regards, Ian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:30:23 -0600 From: Trevor Subject: Monitor Gamma Correction Hello, I recently got a second monitor for my Mac and hooked it up with an old video card I had laying around. It all works fine, but the image looks washed out. The same monitor when connected to the Mac built in video looks great, so I don't think the fault lies in the monitor. It must, therefore, lie in either the video card or the combination of that video card with that monitor. Is there a program on Info-Mac or elsewhere that will let me custom gamma correct the second video card/ monitor? Note: pressing the Option key while hitting the Options button in the Monitors Control Panel gives me two gamma choices: Custom Gamma and Uncorrected Gamma. Neither really help: Uncorrected is darker, but it still looks washed out. Adjusting the brightness and contrast of the monitor itself also don't do any significant good. Details: Mac Q700/Sys 7.5.5 Built in video connected to NEC MultiSync 4DS, and this is the washed-out looking one: RasterOps MediaTime card connected to Dell 15LS with a Griffin Mac/PC 10 adapter. Thanks in advance, Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:34:00 +0100 From: Alessandro Volz Subject: Need help. >>From where can I download a program that wil enable me to down load a >whole site and then browse through it when I'm not connected ? >Thanks. Get Web Devil! it's homepage is at http://www.best.com/~bns/ChaoticSoftware/ Bye all! Ale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 23:41:58 -0800 From: Paul Mullen Subject: Norton Util "B-Tree" Errors on Mac IIci >The consensus was that I should take these alerts seriously. I have done >so, >making all the repairs that "Doctor" Norton suggests. However, these >warnings >return within a few days. Is there a way to tell what it is that I am >doing that >causes B-Tree errors? I am using System 7.5.1 on a IIci with 20 megs of ram. Do you have Netscape crashing regularly? That always seems to be the culprit when my Q630 develops this problem. It's easily solved by setting NN's cache to write to a RAM disk. Just go to your Memory control panel... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 17:00:55 +0000 From: Richard Platt Subject: Norton Util "B-Tree" Errors on Mac IIci >... problems with my B-Tree. >The consensus was that I should take these alerts seriously. I have done so, >making all the repairs that "Doctor" Norton suggests. However, these warnings >return within a few days. Is there a way to tell what it is that I am doing that >causes B-Tree errors? My understanding is that these errors can be caused by Web browsers, because they write such vast numbers of files to disc. The standard cure (if you have enough memory) is to create a RAM disc, and specify that your browser writes its cache on the RAM disc. The technique for doing this has been widely covered here and elsewhere, but briefly you should use a utility such as Shrinkwrap, and place the disc image file you create into your startup folder. It will then mount at startup and appear on the desktop. You designate the RAM disc as the cache folder using the options dialog box in your browser. Richard Platt Telephone: (44) 1892 890741 Fax: (44) 1892 890951 The Old Squash Court, Bayham Abbey, Lamberhurst, Kent, United Kingdom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 17:23:30 -0500 From: Chris Gervais Subject: Norton Util "B-Tree" Errors on Mac IIci Bob, >The consensus was that I should take these alerts seriously. I have done >so, >making all the repairs that "Doctor" Norton suggests. However, these >warnings >return within a few days. Is there a way to tell what it is that I am >doing that >causes B-Tree errors? I am using System 7.5.1 on a IIci with 20 megs of ram. You should definitely take the B-tree errors seriously. The Mac OS File System uses a structure called a B-tree to maintain the locations of all the files on the disk (it's similar to what databases use) and if there's damage to your tree, all your leaves could fall off and then you'd be out of luck. I would boot using the Norton Disk Doctor boot disk and run it a few times to make sure you've eradicated the problem. The source of B-tree corruption is a little vague. Mostly it occurs when you crash and the file system's integrity is compromised (like you crash when moving a folder full of files, or when writing to a file). Luckily the file system can limp by without major damage for a while, but it's always good to clean it up! Hope this helps, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:18:42 GMT From: E.Eisenhandler@qmw.ac.uk Subject: OS8 Chicago font The version of Chicago embedded in OS8 has slashed zeroes. Although these can often be useful, they make the menu-bar clock harder to read. Can anyone advise me how to put the older version of Chicago, with normal zeroes, into OS8? Certainly just changing the font in the folder doesn't do it, it really seems to be built into the system. And no, I'd prefer not to use Charcoal - I just don't like it. Many thanks for your help. Eric Eisenhandler, Queen Mary & Westfield College, Univ. of London ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:09:23 -0700 From: Dick Landis Subject: PB3400 & netword printers? New PB3400 running System 8 connected to small network via ethernet. Can work with the other computers on the net, but can not get to the printers. Chooser comes up blank. Have tried reinstall system and about everything else. What am I missing? ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 1998 01:56:21 -0000 From: "John R. Dunning" Subject: Poweruser cd drive? I recently acquired a poweruser 2X cd drive, which came without software. Anybody know where I could find the driver for this thing? Please reply directly to me, jrd@jrd.org. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:54:24 -0500 From: Diane & David Turner Subject: Printing speed on Epson 600 / Mac IIci >I responded to Epson's holiday hype and bought a Stylus Color 600 to print >color flyers for my business. It is doing just what I wanted it to do and >paying for itself in every way except speed. It takes seventeen minutes to >print a 2500K, one-page color document at 360 dpi. (Mac IIci, 20 megs ram, >System 7.5.1)I have called Epson and get vague, unconclusive responses from >their Mac techs, most of whom, I think, weren't even born when my IIci came >out. MacWorld's test of this machine connected to a PowerMac 7500/100 >resulted >in 5-1/2 minutes for the most complex document. Is this simply the best my 030 >processor will do? Any suggestions? >Thanks, >Bob Galbreath >bg4gls@loop.com I, too, succumbed to the hype and purchased a SC600. From what I have observed so far, the printer driver uses a HUGE amount of Finder RAM while printing. On my wife's IIsi, RAM usage goes from around 4MB to 8MB. In fact, sometimes I cannot print at all because there is insufficient memory available. (BTW, I think you can ignore EPSON's advice to increase RAM allocation to EPSON Monitor with background printing on - About This Computer showed very little actual RAM usage during printing. I reduced back to suggested size with no problems.) I have also noticed that there is a significant difference in printing speed between programs. Word and Eudora are fairly quick, Internet Explorer, Adobe Acrobat and most graphics programs are painfully slow (about 1 *hour* per page at best resolution in color). I suspect that the differences are chiefly due to page content: B&W text is much easier to deliver than full color graphics. Another annoying facet of the print driver is the inability to select the spool folder location - it will only use the one it creates in the Extensions folder during installation. (No, aliases do not work - I've tried. :^\) This is a problem, since I haven't much room to spare on the internal hard drive. While printing from Acrobat Reader, some single pages created spool files over 4MB! I finally had to use a special boot disk on my Syquest removable so I could spool more than 4 pages at a time. >From my limited use of the printer with my PowerBook, the printing speed does seem somewhat faster, but still slower than advertised. Overall, though, I'm mostly pleased with the results - fantastic quality for the price. >From the road, David Turner --> Indecision is the key to flexibility <-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:50:28 -0700 From: prosoul@orca.bc.ca Subject: Subject: [Q] sound in I have the same Mac model you do, and have this problem as well. It is due to the fact that although the sound manager input is16bit, 44.1, it is not a professional audio recording device, so it overloads very easily. You have to reduce the external input volume, either from the camera, or an external mixer, or something that can adjust the gain. Even if you send the camera input into a tape deck, you can reduce the volume coming back out of it and record this, although this isn't the greatest. It's a drag, I know. Jarome Matthew Pro Soul Production Dimension Arc Media http://www.dimensionarc.com http://www.dimensionarc.com/prosoulproduction ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:20:11 +1300 From: Isle Subject: Typing Problems LCIII Typing in for mail and Internet servers on my LCIII has suddenly slowed to a crawl. The monitor is up to 20 characters behind physical keying and often characters are transposed. Does anybody know why this should be so, and how it may be fixed? I am running 7.1, 20 megs of free ram, Netscape 3.1 and Eudora Lite. The hard dive is "clean" and defragmented frequently. Thanks, Mike. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 09:40:19 -0800 From: Dan & Melissa Becker Subject: Utility for allowing drag-and-drop onto items in Apple Menu? Hello, all; long time no post! I thought I remebered a utility to allow drag-and-drop onto items in the Apple Menu, or items in subfolders of the apple menu. In fact, I think I tried it, but it conflicted with another must-have utility I was running. This was back a ways, maybe even in 7.1. In any case, does anyone know of such a utility that works under MacOS 8? I am aware of some CM extenders that give similar functionality, but I'd really like to do it this way, for purely aesthetic reasons. tia, dan becker / missydan@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:53:59 -0500 (EST) From: Luskin@aol.com Subject: why did your last post get cut off? This morning, in my download, I got a message from you, the info-mac digest #8. Here is the aol flash session log: Reading message " Info-Mac Digest V16 #8" (10:36:34 AM) The rest of the message is too long to display. (10:36:48 AM) FlashSession is complete (10:36:49 AM) Why was this cut off, and is it your problem or AOL's (maybe a silly quesiton). MIchael B. Luskin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:24:25 +0100 From: pcardon@club-internet.fr (Pascal CARDON) Subject: Yooz Home Page Yooz, spy and others are available in InfoMac archives, and now on my new web site at : http://perso.magic.fr/pcardon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:29:02 EST From: KIRoth Subject: Zip Disk Problem Deri-- Try as follows. Reinsert the sick Zip a few times. Sometimes on another try it will read. Try running Apple Disk First Aid, selecting the Zip, leaving the Zip in place even if "unreadable." Run Norton Disk Doctor. I had the same problem, except worse--my hard drive became "unreadable," and I got the Sad Mac. I then restarted (I think I had to force-restart, with c key held down to start from the Norton CD), and with the machine running with the Norton 3.5 CD as startup disk, ran Disk Doctor. DD reported that one of my directories was corrupted, offered to fix, an offer I couldn't remove. As it fixed, I could see the desktop pattern and its herd of icons returning. Norton also has a Disk Recover and a File Recover. I have noticed discussion on the list about Norton as against other utilities. I have used Norton since 1992 and it has done well by me. I think it's conservatively designed to avoid doing damage, so perhaps it does not dig quite as deep as others including Tech Tool. Warnings about using Norton. It will optimize your hard drive and floppies nicely. It will not optimize Zips (hangs) but will check and defrag them nicely. Use Norton's Rebuild Desktop utility (part of Disk Doctor app) only if you want to do a deeper rebuild than Apple's rebuild, but not as deep as Tech Tool, which I think is a little dangerous (and so does Tech Tool -- their warnings before use are bloodcurdling). Use following sequence. First, reset your Extensions Manager so that ALL extensions & CPs are off EXCEPT Mac Easy open. Then restart from the Norton CD (hold down c), run Disk Doctor, if all is OK then use its Rebuild Desktop function (it's slow), then restart without holding down c and machine will reboot from HD and rebuild again. The double rebuild occurs because in the first rebuild Mac E O was off, and then in the new restart from HD that seocnd rebuild is necessary to give Mac E O the info it needs. Then select your normal extension set and restart. Why use this elaborate procedure? Because yu can purge a lot more bloat from your desktop file than from an Apple rebuild, without the loss of info and need to do a lot of resetting which follows Tech Tool use. Unless there is an amazing turnober of stuff on your HD, you don't need to do this radical debloat more than once a year! If in doubt, don't use the Norton rebuld desktop at all. If you attempt to restart from HD immediately after the Norton rebuild WITHOUT remembering to reset your Ex Manager as above, you may get crashes, for which the only cure is to force-restart with shift key down, then select Mac E O ONLY in ext manager and restart again. This is more than you asked, but anyone thinking about using Morton on a Zip should know that in these limited ways it is not compatible with recent Mac systems (i.e. those running Mac E O) and with Zips. But otherwise I have had no trouble, and instead have had the joy of seeing the Sad Mac disappear within 5 minutes. Please let me know of your experience if you follow these recommendations. Best of luck, Ken >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:06:17 +0000 >From: Deri Best >Subject: Zip Disk Problem > >One of my Zip disks has expired, of course it was the one with the most >stuff on. When I attempt to load it, it makes the clunking noise which >they make when loading over and over again, until a message window >appears saying it is, "unreadable, it is not a Mac formatted disk, do I >want to format it" which of course I do not because I don't have a back >up for everything on there. The machine is working OK because the other >disks are fine and there doesn't appear to be anything physically wrong >with the disk. Any suggestions, all I want is to get the information >onto another disk, I can live with the loss of the disk. >THANKS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:17:02 EST From: KIRoth Subject: Zip Disk Problem #2 This additional warning necessary: Using Norton on Zips, it is necessary both for Disk Doctor and Speed Disk to disable check media/check for bad blocks. Otherwise Norton goes part way, never finishes. Norton simply has not caught up with zips, maybe will do so someday. Despite the few limitations, anyone who has been rescued from the Sad Mac and other less awful events acquires a great loyalty to Norton, esp since its functions keep a disk up to speed even with a lot of stuff on it. Ken -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************